Humankind created war, and is therefore capable of ending it. This is the daring theme of science scholar John Horgan’s new book, “The End of War.” In Part 1 of my podcast interview with Horgan, he discussed evidence that human warfare has existed for only the last ten thousand years: a blip on the historical screen of human history.

Most of us perceive warfare as the single-most horrific tool employed by nations in the settling of disputes. But how often do we hear convincing counter-narratives that offer hope for a better way? Listen to my interview with scholar John Horgan, author of “The End of War” to hear a unique perspective on cultural evolution, and his conclusion that a warless future could be humanity’s next step.